bWe Baptist Women for Equality
bWe Baptist Women for Equality
Southwestern Theological Seminary adopts statement
asserting male headship. Called The Danvers Statement on Biblical Manhood
and Biblical Womanhood. It will affect you when your youth pastor starts teaching
your girls they are to submit to the God-man they are to marry. When your
sons are told they are superior to their mother who gave birth to them. When
your pastor preaches on the family and you find the women are the only ones
submitting. Read "Jackboot of the Southern Baptist Convention"
asserting male headship. Called The Danvers Statement on Biblical Manhood
and Biblical Womanhood. It will affect you when your youth pastor starts teaching
your girls they are to submit to the God-man they are to marry. When your
sons are told they are superior to their mother who gave birth to them. When
your pastor preaches on the family and you find the women are the only ones
submitting. Read "Jackboot of the Southern Baptist Convention"
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advocating for Women Deacons and Women Pastors
Scriptural Arguments for Women Pastors and Women Deacons
Todd D Still, PhD Assciate Professor of Christian Scriptures, Truett Seminary
James Denison, PhD, Theologian in Residence (BGCT)
See Resources
Todd D Still, PhD Assciate Professor of Christian Scriptures, Truett Seminary
James Denison, PhD, Theologian in Residence (BGCT)
See Resources
1 Timothy 3:8-13 - what Paul was really saying
When you go to choosing deacons, choose a man who has only one wife. You don't need to add
more to his plate of responsibilities by asking him to take on a widow woman and her children. He
has enough to do in taking care of his wives and many children.
Read the whole passage. Paul is telling them that the person must be able to take care of his
own household. His children must be raised right, he must be of strong moral character, and not
be a recent convert. His household must not have many wives who would be squabbling and
causing disagreement among themselves. He is not referring to gender, but to morality.
We know that today many men have more than one wife even here in the United States. Our
missionaries encounter this in African countries, and it was common in Paul's day.
When you go to choosing deacons, choose a man who has only one wife. You don't need to add
more to his plate of responsibilities by asking him to take on a widow woman and her children. He
has enough to do in taking care of his wives and many children.
Read the whole passage. Paul is telling them that the person must be able to take care of his
own household. His children must be raised right, he must be of strong moral character, and not
be a recent convert. His household must not have many wives who would be squabbling and
causing disagreement among themselves. He is not referring to gender, but to morality.
We know that today many men have more than one wife even here in the United States. Our
missionaries encounter this in African countries, and it was common in Paul's day.
If Adam had killed that snake, that would have been Male Headship |
The Lord's Supper makes women equal, and at the same time shows us that we are unequal in the eyes of our church |
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| bWe Baptist Women for Equality Not an organization - but a concept email - bwebaptist.women@yahoo.com Shirley Taylor. founder Don Taylor, assistant |
Our troops returning home from Afghanistan and Iraq
We send our young Christian men to a country where the religion demands that the women submit to
the husbands and they are beaten and worse, when they step out of line. How do you tell him that his
wife must submit to him? He or she saw their buddies die for the freedom of those women, and then
they come home and hear the same thing.
God created man and woman equal - not for only one to submit to the other
We send our young Christian men to a country where the religion demands that the women submit to
the husbands and they are beaten and worse, when they step out of line. How do you tell him that his
wife must submit to him? He or she saw their buddies die for the freedom of those women, and then
they come home and hear the same thing.
God created man and woman equal - not for only one to submit to the other
Misuse of Scripture in the Past (Woman be Free! by Patricia Gundry)
Luke 14:23 The Inquisition - Heresy was anything that differed from the official doctrine of the
Catholic church.
Isaiah 51:13, 16 -Galileo - Man was the center of the universe, and the stars, moon, and sun
revolved around earth.
Exodus 22:18 Witches - Scapegoats to blame for their troubles.
Genesis 3:16 Medicine - women could not have painkillers during childbirth because "with pain
you will give birth to children."
1 Corinthians 7:20-24, Ephesians 6:5-8, 1 Timothy 6:1,2 Slavery - Scriptures refer to the behavior of
believing slaves toward their masters. It was seen as condoning slavery.
Luke 14:23 The Inquisition - Heresy was anything that differed from the official doctrine of the
Catholic church.
Isaiah 51:13, 16 -Galileo - Man was the center of the universe, and the stars, moon, and sun
revolved around earth.
Exodus 22:18 Witches - Scapegoats to blame for their troubles.
Genesis 3:16 Medicine - women could not have painkillers during childbirth because "with pain
you will give birth to children."
1 Corinthians 7:20-24, Ephesians 6:5-8, 1 Timothy 6:1,2 Slavery - Scriptures refer to the behavior of
believing slaves toward their masters. It was seen as condoning slavery.
We have a problem
One year ago, I stepped out for women’s equality in the Southern Baptist church. Little did I know
what a journey it would be. I had no idea that for years so many men and women have been
calling for equal rights in churches. Not only in the Baptist churches, but in other denominations
where women cannot serve as a deacon, where she cannot be allowed to preach, where she
cannot answer the call she feels to serve God fully.
In this past year I have discovered groups that are calling for yet more and more restrictions on
women . I have heard that “women must submit to their husbands” spoken before a
congregation of 2500 people, even though the sermon was not about women submitting. My
husband and I have visited many churches, Baptist and non-Baptist, in order to see what is
happening in our churches.
We have a problem. The problem is not women. The problem is that whenever anybody decides
that one half of the population is inferior before God, they will do anything within their power to
keep them subdued. They develop a superiority that is ungodly. Their treatment of women will
ultimately be their own downfall. A person, man or woman, cannot hold themselves above any
one of their fellow Christians and expect God to bless them. We are setting our young men up
for a fall. We are setting our churches up for a catastrophic downfall.
This phenomenon is a fairly recent happening. It came about as a backlash against the feminism
of the 1970s. Before that time, in all my attendance in a Baptist church, I never heard that women
must submit to their husbands. I knew women could not preach in a Baptist church, nor be a
deacon, or even take up the offering. I accepted that as almost every woman of that time did. As
most women do today, even when they would not accept such attitudes in the workplace, nor
anyplace else. We have been marinated in this philosophy, but attitudes are changing as I have
found out in this past year.
However, the most divisive and loudest of them all are women and the men who are willing to
destroy their church or leave their church simply because this issue is being discussed. They
should look at the ones in the congregation who have sat quietly for years while the men went
forward and turned their backs to the women to prepare for the Lord’s Supper. They should look
to the young girls who we have led to believe that she is to answer God’s call in her life – only to
be told that we know that God would not ever call her to preach. They should look to their church
and see the young women who have been sent to the mission field – many to countries where
their lives are in danger, while their brother would have been called to preach in a church at
home.
We have a problem, and it is not about women. It is about telling the Holy Spirit what can and
cannot be done.
We have a problem, and it is about a church that denies over one-half of its congregation to
serve God fully as she is called.
We have a problem.
One year ago, I stepped out for women’s equality in the Southern Baptist church. Little did I know
what a journey it would be. I had no idea that for years so many men and women have been
calling for equal rights in churches. Not only in the Baptist churches, but in other denominations
where women cannot serve as a deacon, where she cannot be allowed to preach, where she
cannot answer the call she feels to serve God fully.
In this past year I have discovered groups that are calling for yet more and more restrictions on
women . I have heard that “women must submit to their husbands” spoken before a
congregation of 2500 people, even though the sermon was not about women submitting. My
husband and I have visited many churches, Baptist and non-Baptist, in order to see what is
happening in our churches.
We have a problem. The problem is not women. The problem is that whenever anybody decides
that one half of the population is inferior before God, they will do anything within their power to
keep them subdued. They develop a superiority that is ungodly. Their treatment of women will
ultimately be their own downfall. A person, man or woman, cannot hold themselves above any
one of their fellow Christians and expect God to bless them. We are setting our young men up
for a fall. We are setting our churches up for a catastrophic downfall.
This phenomenon is a fairly recent happening. It came about as a backlash against the feminism
of the 1970s. Before that time, in all my attendance in a Baptist church, I never heard that women
must submit to their husbands. I knew women could not preach in a Baptist church, nor be a
deacon, or even take up the offering. I accepted that as almost every woman of that time did. As
most women do today, even when they would not accept such attitudes in the workplace, nor
anyplace else. We have been marinated in this philosophy, but attitudes are changing as I have
found out in this past year.
However, the most divisive and loudest of them all are women and the men who are willing to
destroy their church or leave their church simply because this issue is being discussed. They
should look at the ones in the congregation who have sat quietly for years while the men went
forward and turned their backs to the women to prepare for the Lord’s Supper. They should look
to the young girls who we have led to believe that she is to answer God’s call in her life – only to
be told that we know that God would not ever call her to preach. They should look to their church
and see the young women who have been sent to the mission field – many to countries where
their lives are in danger, while their brother would have been called to preach in a church at
home.
We have a problem, and it is not about women. It is about telling the Holy Spirit what can and
cannot be done.
We have a problem, and it is about a church that denies over one-half of its congregation to
serve God fully as she is called.
We have a problem.
| Updated 02-07-2010 |
They Tinkered with 1 Peter 3
Two weeks after The Danvers Statement on Biblical Manhood and Biblical Womanhood was
adopted by the Southwestern Theological Seminary, I heard a pastor preach on wives’ submission
in 1 Peter 3. He told the women that if they didn’t like what it said, to take it up with Peter, not him.
But they had already tinkered with 1 Peter 3 in The Danvers Statement and changed the meaning
of it. They refer to the ‘humble leadership of redeemed husbands… and redeemed wives.’ 1
Peter 3:1 does not say that. In fact, it says women are to submit to their husbands who are not
redeemed because by their lives they can bring their husband to a redeeming faith. Women
leading their husbands to salvation? Absolutely! (I guess he then was supposed to be her leader)
Two weeks after The Danvers Statement on Biblical Manhood and Biblical Womanhood was
adopted by the Southwestern Theological Seminary, I heard a pastor preach on wives’ submission
in 1 Peter 3. He told the women that if they didn’t like what it said, to take it up with Peter, not him.
But they had already tinkered with 1 Peter 3 in The Danvers Statement and changed the meaning
of it. They refer to the ‘humble leadership of redeemed husbands… and redeemed wives.’ 1
Peter 3:1 does not say that. In fact, it says women are to submit to their husbands who are not
redeemed because by their lives they can bring their husband to a redeeming faith. Women
leading their husbands to salvation? Absolutely! (I guess he then was supposed to be her leader)
The Scriptures are still true
Attitudes about women are due a change. The scriptures are still true. But like many scriptures,
our interpretation of those scriptures are being enlightened. Just as we know that slavery is
wrong, we know that denying women the fullness of their salvation is wrong. Our Southern
Baptist Convention was founded on the belief,and by people who believed, that owning slaves
was Biblical. Today we read those very same scriptures and know that our interpretation of them
was wrong.
Attitudes about women are due a change. The scriptures are still true. But like many scriptures,
our interpretation of those scriptures are being enlightened. Just as we know that slavery is
wrong, we know that denying women the fullness of their salvation is wrong. Our Southern
Baptist Convention was founded on the belief,and by people who believed, that owning slaves
was Biblical. Today we read those very same scriptures and know that our interpretation of them
was wrong.
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