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Egalitarians have shortened the word complementarian to just "comps." Remember that egalitarians believe and teach that women are created equal - no buts. Complementarians believe and teach that women are equal-but.
I have to say, reading your blog has been very beneficial for me personally. I was troubled by half-believing a couple of things comp doctrine says, but with your scriptural understanding and logic you've helped to convince me further that God really is gender-
blind. As a result I've been able to see God as more of a loving Father, perfect in fairness and in how he views all humans. I've been
able to see more of how he sees me - that he doesn't value anyone more than me, and doesn't value me more than anyone else.
Especially not based on gender. I've realised that he loves me and judges me based on my heart, and doesn't take sex into account
when he looks at my soul, or anyone's soul for that matter. That said, he loves me as a woman as well, and sees not a weaker-
made servant but someone of equal strength, who can do a few things that fill in the gaps for men, like men can do a few things that fill in gaps for us. Other than that, the sexes are no different and neither were meant to 'lead'.
Thanks to your blog,primarily (I've also done some external reading), I've been able to see myself more through God's eyes.
(Kristen) I think what you’re writing is good, strong, old-fashioned common sense, and it is sadly lacking in churches today. Jesus
used it when He told the Pharisees they were tithing mint, dill and cumin, but neglecting righteousness, justice and mercy. To focus
on isolated texts about women and ignore the greater message of love & unity in Christ, is to strain out a gnat and swallow a camel.
We do need to show how the texts could mean something different than what these people say they mean, but ultimately, the reason to choose one reading over another has to do with whether the heart is focused on mint, dill & cumin or on righteousness, mercy and justice.
(Estelle) What about 1 Peter 2:9 where followers of Christ are called ‘a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God…’ ? I see no gender distinctions in this passage. How can ‘royal priesthood’ automatically exclude females?
(Mabel) The bible verses that hierarchists use to suppress women are the same bible verses atheists use to ridicule our faith.
Shirley is right, your faith is judged by how you treat your women. There has been plenty of scholarship on how poorly these verses
had been translated and how some has been added later on.
(T.L.) To the question of what Scriptures say that women can be pastors, I will say that every Scripture that says that men can be
pastors is also addressing women. There is no differentiation. In Paul’s discussions about the callings, motivational grace gifts, and the spiritual gifts there is no division between gifts for males or gifts for females.
(Charis) Therefore “husband of one wife” cannot mean the exclusion of women from the role in question. If it did, Paul would be
contradicting himself by appointing and commending Deacon Phoebe. Despite the obscuring of her deacon identity by English
translations, she is commended by Paul in Romans 16:1 using the exact same “diakonon”[deacon] word he used in Rom 15:8 for Christ, Romans 15:25 for himself, and 1 Thes 3:2 for Timothy.
(Boatrocker) The Christian faith is first of all a personal faith, then a personal relationship, then a multi-faceted relationship with other such individuals. It is gift-based and non-hierarchical, and a daily life to live.
(Amos) “What complementarians are doing is making husbands into little demi-Christs in the home, with the wives in the place of
humans and husbands in the place of deity.”
(Lydia) So, they want me to believe there is a more strict and legalistic law for women in the New Covenant? No, it is belief in flawed
translations (written by men not the Holy Spirit) and spotty hermeneutics that backs up their interpretation. But if they take the WHOLE periscope, their elevation of themselves does not hold water. They are neo Pharisees.
(Kristen) To unchurched women, gender role is one of the most important issues. To them, it is an indication of the character of the
God we preach. They want nothing to do with a sexist god, We are selling our God short in the eyes of the world with this ridiculous
(Marg) What Women can do in the Church Ok, this one is a joke. Except he doesn’t think it is a joke, and therein lies the danger. It is found on the Council on Biblical Manhood and Biblical Womanhood website and Wayne Grudem is serious when he attempts to tell churches what it is that women can’t do in the church.
(Kristen) In Paul’s day, the authority of the “pater familias” over his wife, children and slaves was one of the earthly authorities that
had to be taken into account– and Paul’s words to the Ephesians reflect this understanding. That doesn’t mean that we, as 21st-century Christians, need to return to a husband-authority structure, especially when our own cultures have abandoned such structures; any more than we need to go back to serving a king or an emperor just because Paul said, “honor the king.”
(Mabel) The hierarchalists claim that God created men and women equal, but men have authoritative role over women, and women don’t have authoritative role over men, but have it over other women and children (age not specified, i.e. one day, she has authority over him, and the next day, when he reaches a certain age, poof, authority gone). BUT, men and women are equal. How ridiculous!
(Shirley Taylor) You named one of the reasons people don’t leave. It is the church members they know and love. It is the actual
building itself that has become home to them. Usually there is not another church close by that they could identify with. Many people are willing to look to the good things about their church and ignore the bad things because it is their church.
However, many, many people have left. Some have left church altogether. Some have left that denomination. Some have left their home church. A Baptist leader told me recently that his church was so against women but it took many years before they moved from that church and went to an egalitarian church. He said now that whenever a young woman is encouraged to preach or other ministry, he and his wife look at each other with tears in their eyes, thinking about the church they loved that refused women. He loves his new church of the same denomination – but with a completely different attitude about women.
It is a hard choice. Most will continue to ignore the implications of what their church is teaching as long as they are not personally affected by it. However, when one women is denied full equality simply because she was born female, all women are denied.
(Mabel) Why do the so called complementarians not practice true complementarianism, which is, let men and women complement each other, not let one gender has authority over the other gender. That is not complementarian, that is male supremacy on account of the flesh. When would they turn from this blind spot?
(Marg) I believe that Paul’s prohibition was to one woman in one church for that particular time. This woman was a false teacher
teaching an early form of Gnosticism. No man or woman in Christ should seek to have authority over another believer in the name of
(Retha) Shirley, you have not changed things only when Baptists vote to allow women preachers. You have caused change when
one man or woman rethinks this hierarchal doctrine. Keep on working for change, and know the drops are making a stream, and
the stream will become a river.
(From G.A – a complementarian pastor) “I believe that in the correct context women can preach. However, I don’t believe the Text
allows for a woman to be an elder or to exercise authority over a man. Like I stated on my site…I believe that women are integral to the gospel and to the church. We have to have women serving the body. Women can preach to women, we have a woman in charge of all of our children’s ministries at our church, and our churches would not have nurseries without women (our church doesn’t allow men to serve in the nursery).”
(Mabel) I love it when husbands proclaim up and down that husbands are to give their lives for their wives. In the same breath, they
say: We will NEVER give up our authority over you. God appointed me your leader, so follow. Wow, that really is self sacrifice, isn’t it?
(Marg) There are still so many Christian men and women who simply believe that God has designed men to be the leaders,
(spiritually and otherwise), and that women are designed to be the submissive responders. This is what they see demonstrated and this is what they hear being taught in their church communities.
Many Christians believe that male authority and female subordination is biblically mandated. Until the Church as a whole begins to demonstrate and teach otherwise, I guess I’ll keep writing about women’s equality. I can’t wait for the day when this will no longer be necessary.
One day people will look back at our debates about women’s equality with incredulity; and wonder why it took so long and why there was ever any doubt about equality in the first place. I hope that day is very soon.